Supplement Smarts: What Works, What’s Hype and What Women Need to Know

September 22, 2026   | Episode 71

Producer’s Note: The following is an AI-generated transcript of The Wellness Conversation, an OhioHealth Podcast

SPEAKERS: Marcus Thorpe, Katie Lowe, Guest:  Dr. Jaynine Vado, medical director of OhioHealth Hospice

00:00:14 Marcus Thorpe

Hi everybody and welcome to the Wellness Conversation and OhioHealth podcast.

I'm Marcus Thorpe.

00:00:18 Katie Lowe

And I'm Katie Lowe.

Marcus, I feel like everyone seems to have an opinion when it comes to supplements.

00:00:25 Marcus Thorpe

Yeah, I used to get intimidated walking to like a GNC because there's so much on the shelves and you don't know what you're looking at.

There's like potassium and collagen and all of that has gone from, I've heard about this to it's everywhere.

You can't avoid something where everyone is talking about, oh, take this supplement or you should

try that supplement.

It's everywhere.

00:00:45 Katie Lowe

Everywhere and quite a bit of money.

you can spend a lot pretty fast.

And it raises a pretty important question.

Do we actually need all of this?

Because supplements really are, like Marcus was saying, everywhere these days, not just at the pharmacy.

You go to the grocery store, online, all over social media.

And many of them are marketed specifically to women, promising more energy and stronger nails and better skin, hair, healthy aging.

00:01:13 Marcus Thorpe

Yeah, so what's real?

What's hype?

That's what we're going to get into with this wellness conversation.

And we are super glad to be joined by Dr.

Jaynine Vado, medical director of OhioHealth Hospice and somebody who really has dug into supplements.

When I reached out to you, you're like, oh, this is perfect because I've really been looking a lot into supplements.

Thanks for joining us.

Tell us why this was such an important topic for you to really dig into.

00:01:36 Dr. Jaynine Vado

You know, so my background is internal medicine.

My subspecialty is hospice.

And so I have been a primary care physician for over, well, a decade.

And it's really important because my patients would come in, right?

My patients would come in asking me about, hey, Dr.

Vado, I saw this ad in AARP or I was on Instagram or Facebook and I saw this ad or I was on some forum on Reddit or Facebook that was talking about this particular supplement and how it may help me.

Is this something that actually does help?

can I take it with you knowing what my underlying health conditions are?

So it was something that, as any physician, when a patient comes to you, I may not know right off the bat what that supplement may do, but I'll say, hey, let's take a look into it.

I'm going to do a little bit of research.

I'm going to get back to you and make sure that one, it's not interacting with any medications you're taking.

Two, is it actually helpful for what you're wanting to take it?

And what should we be looking for as potential side effects?

And so this is very common because there

anyone can go out and buy these, right?

You don't need a prescription from a prescribing clinician.

You can just go on the internet.

00:02:43 Dr. Jaynine Vado

You can go through, you know, TikTok store, Facebook store, Instagram store, at your local stores, at your local vitamin shops and purchase these.

And we may never know as your clinicians if you are not taking an additional supplement.

So yeah, it became really, really important for me to educate myself on it as well as share that information when my patients come in.

00:03:05 Marcus Thorpe

There's two ways to look at this.

One, it's great that so many people are really interested in their health and they want to be living a wellness lifestyle.

I think that's awesome.

Two, this kind of feels like the Wild West in many ways where you're just like, there's so much coming at you and what's real and what's not.

Let's talk just total basics, right?

We hear the words

And those kind of words are something that, okay, that sounds pretty good.

I'd like to find a way to help my dietary to be a little bit better.

What does that mean and how should we be looking at dietary supplements?

00:03:36 Dr. Jaynine Vado

Yeah, so when we think of multivitamins, herbals, and things that are classified as dietary supplements, by definition, it is a product that is meant to supplement your diet.

So only things that you ingest, so only by whether mixing it in a powdered form in a drink,

taking it via pill form, via gummy form, and eating that.

Anything that's considered topical or inhaled is not considered a dietary supplement.

00:04:04 Katie Lowe

All right.

I just wanted to say in the beginning you were talking about how a lot of patients are coming to you and asking these questions like, would this actually help me?

And it's great to hear that there were plenty of patients coming to you because I think a lot of people can be easily influenced and they're not going to ask their primary care provider.

They're just going to go ahead and buy it.

So that's great to hear.

00:04:26 Katie Lowe

And we're going to continue asking questions today because I think a lot of people have questions.

00:04:31 Dr. Jaynine Vado

And I will say there was a good handful that will also come to me after

they had started something and unfortunately had a side effect that they thought was something else related to their health.

And I always ask the question of, have we started anything new?

Or have we changed anything, right?

Because sometimes people will stop taking their medications as prescribed or start taking them differently because they're feeling a certain way.

Or often they've started some sort of dietary supplement or herbal remedy over the counter.

And so it's always important as a physician, I always think of us as kind of detectives essentially and investigating what's going on with our patient's health and making sure that there's nothing that can be stopped easily that could be causing any issues that they may be having.

00:05:12 Katie Lowe

Right.

So let's talk about just

that healthy adults, should they be taking supplements?

00:05:20 Dr. Jaynine Vado

So what the evidence shows is that as long as we are eating a varied, well-rounded, well-balanced diet, most of us do not need to take any supplements, right?

But what's the reality?

Do we eat a varied, well-balanced diet on an everyday basis?

No.

Right.

We know the end of her mark.

It would be nice.

to believe that every single day we are getting a half a plate of vegetables, fruit, 1/4 of a plate of a healthy protein, 1/4 of a plate of healthy whole grains, complex carbohydrates.

The reality is that we are working.

We often don't always have access to the fruits and vegetables that we need.

We are maybe having a family that we're taking care of.

Maybe we are caregivers taking care of loved ones.

And so the reality is that we are not always getting that perfectly well-balanced diet.

So if you're getting a perfectly well-balanced diet all of the time, or I would say 80% of the time, you do not need to be taking a supplement.

Outside of that, that's where people start to say, well, maybe

would be helpful for me to use something like a multivitamin.

00:06:34 Marcus Thorpe

What does a multivitamin do to help with the things that we aren't getting?

Food first, obviously we'd like to do that, but a multivitamin really is something that I think everybody thinks of it like, this is what I'm going to do.

This is my daily thing.

I mean, is there any harm in doing a multivitamin?

00:06:51 Dr. Jaynine Vado

So unfortunately, anything that is considered natural can be harmful, right?

So we always have to be mindful of that.

Just because something is labeled as a vitamin, a mineral, or natural doesn't mean that it is safe.

And you should always talk with your physician before starting anything because you may have, there are certain vitamins and minerals that can interact with certain of your medications.

If you have underlying health issues, particularly of your liver and of your kidney, right?

Your liver helps to detoxify your body.

Your kidney helps to filter.

products within your body.

And so you have to be careful when you're taking certain supplements because if your liver and your kidney aren't working well, some of those can build up and those can lead to toxicity levels.

So yes, generally a multivitamin can be considered safe.

They should

only have lower ends right to make sure that you don't hit toxic levels of any of those vitamins and minerals in there where we get into trouble is right I'm starting to take a multivitamin and then maybe I saw this one specifically for my heart and I saw this one specifically for my eyes and I saw this one specifically for kidney health and you start taking it not realizing that there's multiple overlapping ingredients and then that's where we can come into trouble.

00:07:56 Katie Lowe

Yeah I'm thinking of that Flintstone vitamin that we would always pop in when we were kids.

I love those.

I'm pretty sure

parents who are not consulting doctors before, but they are also physicians.

So we'll give them a pass.

I'm curious, you know, when someone is determining whether or not they need a supplement, is that something where they need to be tested for some sort of deficiency?

00:08:20 Dr. Jaynine Vado

So ideally,

the individuals that we want to be taking supplements.

So there is a group that would be at higher risk, right?

So anyone that has been diagnosed with a nutrient deficiency.

You went to your physician for some particular complaint and they ran blood tests and they noticed that you were deficient on some sort of vitamin or mineral, right?

So the most common would be B12, vitamin D, iron are probably your most common vitamin deficiencies that we can go ahead and test for.

You can also test for magnesium.

It's the magnesium RBC is the better lab value.

Most facilities only have just a general magnesium to test for, so that one can be a little bit harder to test for.

But those are probably the most common vitamin deficiencies.

Calcium would be another common mineral deficiency that we can see in test on laboratory, on just generic laboratories that we do.

So anyone that has been diagnosed with a nutritional deficiency, yes, you should be taking a supplement

guided by your physician and then being retested to make sure that what you're taking is the appropriate dose so that we're not getting too high in those particular levels.

Older individuals, when I say older, I usually mean 70 and above.

that is typically because the nutritional intake becomes less.

So we kind of always think as we get older, we tend to eat a little bit less.

So then maybe we're not getting enough dietary intake of the right things to make sure that we're eating a well-balanced diet.

Children and adolescents

you may want to consider doing supplementation on again to just because if we're not getting the adequate amount of nutrients that we need and then you have to think about children are growing so we need to make sure that their skeletal health is doing well as they're growing.

Pregnancy or planned pregnancy would be another entity that you would want to consider taking a prenatal vitamin and definitely folic acid.

in those instances.

00:10:14 Marcus Thorpe

I remember those days with my wife when she was pregnant, the folic acid and everything.

We were talking about that constantly with her OB-GYN.

00:10:20 Dr. Jaynine Vado

Yes, very, very important because it helps to prevent those neural tube defects as your baby is developing.

00:10:27 Marcus Thorpe

I think that, I would imagine anyways, that in your line of work, you have to be a little skeptical of things and promises that people are getting through whatever form or fashion, whether it's social media, whether it's on TV and those kind of things.

Without naming specific brands or companies, what are the things when you see it make you most skeptical?

00:10:51 Dr. Jaynine Vado

Especially now in the age of social media.

So if we go to our internet and we look up a specific symptom that we're having, all of a sudden we're going to start getting targeted ads towards us.

And anything that promises like you will be cured, right?

If anything ever says you're going to be cured of something, you should be highly skeptical, right?

If something promises to cure a specific disease like this

particular supplement will help with these diseases?

Absolutely not.

So supplements are not allowed to make that sort of claim because they are not a drug and they can only treat symptoms and not diseases.

So anything that says it will specifically reverse your diabetes, your dementia, you know, it will improve, you know, reduce your high cholesterol.

They can't make those particular claims.

So anything that says this is the miracle drug, everyone who takes this gets better

that are taking this, right?

I always say, if there's specific medications, particularly with memory, I think I get a lot of people, the majority of my patients were of the geriatric age and we all get concerned with our memory as we're aging.

And one of the things that they would come in and they would say, this medicate, this supplement claims that it will improve my memory and I won't have to worry about forgetting things anymore.

And I always say, if that was the case,

the FDA would have them made a medication and other people would have access to it.

If everyone could get better from this, we wouldn't have things like dementia.

We wouldn't have things like heart disease.

We wouldn't have things like cancer if we had miracle magical drugs out there and supplements that could cure that.

So anything that says that's going to cure it, it's miraculous.

It will treat this specific disease.

You need to be very, very careful with that.

00:12:46 Katie Lowe

Yeah, absolutely.

If it sounds too good to be true.

00:12:51 Dr. Jaynine Vado

And why doesn't everyone have access to it?

Because if it was that wonderful, it would be spread to everyone and it now would become a medication that would be covered.

I think we both.

00:13:00 Marcus Thorpe

Love some memory things that could help us.

Wouldn't that be amazing?

00:13:04 Katie Lowe

Sign me up.

00:13:05 Marcus Thorpe

How much does it cost?

I'm taking it.

00:13:08 Katie Lowe

I would love to look at this, the supplement industry specifically with the scope of how it affects women, just because it's so directly marketed towards women so many of the times.

So we were hoping to give you some of these big supplements and you can kind of let us know where the evidence stands.

00:13:28 Marcus Thorpe

How should we look at calcium, magnesium.

00:13:33 Dr. Jaynine Vado

Yes.

So we'll start with iron.

So you should never take iron unless you have been diagnosed with iron deficiency.

So that one can be very dangerous to take if you have not been diagnosed with it.

Why is that?

Because it can affect your liver negatively.

So your liver is very important for detoxifying.

everything in your body.

Your liver does quite a bit of functions in your body.

So you should only be taking that if, so the people that are at risk for iron deficiency anemia, and if you're concerned about it, are women who are of menstruating age.

So if you have a uterus and you're menstruating, and particularly if you have a heavy flow, you may wanna talk with your doctor.

If you're having issues with feeling excessively tired, especially around your menstrual cycle,

then you wanna talk with your doctor to kind of get measured for your complete blood count.

And if your blood counts are running low, then they may go ahead and further take a look at what your iron levels are.

If you are eating a strictly vegan or vegetarian diet and you're not getting meat in your diet, that is one of the best ways to get iron into your diet.

Then you may wanna make sure that you're getting tested for certain vitamins that truly are only found

in meat or better accessible because of eating meat-based products?

00:14:48 Marcus Thorpe

Just don't solo call it.

That's the thing, right?

00:14:52 Dr. Jaynine Vado

Don't solo call it.

So it's very important that you get tested for iron deficiency before you go ahead and start taking an iron supplement.

Magnesium.

Magnesium has been studied in specific arenas, specifically constipation.

So we know that magnesium citrate and oxide can be very helpful.

for constipation.

Outside of that, a lot of people end up taking it for sleep and anxiety to help lower that.

There's really insufficient studies to show that it helps with that specifically.

But magnesium in general, is it going to be harmful to you?

No, if you're taking the appropriate amounts, which I usually tell people do not take more than 400 to 500 milligrams daily of magnesium.

There are lots of different formulations out there for magnesium, some that they say work better for the brain, better for sleep.

better for nerves.

So there are different formulations, but again, you do need to be helpful.

So if you have underlying chronic kidney disease, you do need to be speaking with your physician first before taking a magnesium supplement because you may end up building up those magnesium levels in your body.

And then what was the other?

Calcium.

Calcium.

So yeah, so again, most of our foods are fortified with calcium.

So the recommended amount for men is 1000 milligrams per day and 1200 milligrams for females.

Okay, but that doesn't mean that it needs to be done in supplements

supplementation form.

We need to be looking at what we are eating and drinking throughout the day.

Most of our foods are fortified in calcium.

So we should be trying to get the majority of that within our diet.

And then what we're not able to get, then we're going to go ahead and supplement that with a supplement.

But not everyone needs to take it.

We know that it doesn't reduce fracture risks.

But if you have low calcium levels, you want to take it.

If you've been diagnosed with osteopenia or osteoporosis, a physician may recommend that you take calcium.

But again, you should only be supplementing the amount of calcium that you're not getting.

in your diet.

00:16:40 Katie Lowe

That's a lot of information.

Thank you so much, Doctor.

I want to ask you about collagen, because that one especially, you see it all over the place, especially people talk about it, so important for women, whether it's in powder form or gummies.

I just saw something about Khloe Kardashian making

the collagen infused chips or something like that.

Like it's just all over the place.

Target audience.

00:17:06 Marcus Thorpe

Target audience.

00:17:07 Katie Lowe

I know.

So what does the evidence actually tell us about this?

00:17:11 Dr. Jaynine Vado

So collagen, we know that there is modest

in skin hydration and elasticity only while you're taking it.

So if we stop taking it, then your skin hydration and elasticity returns back to what its baseline was.

And there is some evidence it can help in wound healing.

Beyond that, there's not much evidence in wrinkle reduction or in helping with your joints, which a lot of people may take it for kind of helping with keeping up the health of their joints.

So it doesn't really show that it helps in skin and hair and nails either.

So where you can probably get wrinkle reduction is because if you're improving the elasticity and the hydration of your skin, some of those wrinkles and fine lines may look a little bit lower.

Again, it's only helpful while you're actually taking it.

And then when we start infusing it into other things, I become a little bit skeptical when I'm starting to see it in anything that has been exposed to heat, right?

So if we're putting it into chips and then we're baking our chips, most things become denatured.

with heat.

So I always become a little bit skeptical when I see it along in foods that have already been through the cooking process and now we're heating it up or something like a chip form.

00:18:24 Katie Lowe

That's so helpful.

00:18:25 Marcus Thorpe

We just did a really great

episode on gut health.

Just kind of understanding what's going on and how everything kind of connects to each other.

What do you look at when you look at probiotics?

How do you view those as helpers or hinderers when it comes to things that are happening inside?

00:18:43 Dr. Jaynine Vado

Yes, I love that people are trying to look at their gut health and look at their overall gut microbiome.

It is so important.

Your gut does so many things for your body that you have no idea as far as even just regulating your mood, your mood neurotransmitters to your cholesterol.

It does a lot of functions through there.

It helps with your immune system.

So it's really important to have a healthy gut.

Again, I tell my patients, go to your local library.

I love your local library.

If you're not using your local library, use your local library.

Go to your local library, get books on gut microbiome, and learn how to do it through food, because that's the best way to improve your gut microbiome is through what we eat.

And adding, and I always talk about, it's not necessarily about subtracting things, it's about adding the foods that are going to really help boost your prebiotics, your probiotics.

You want to focus in on those foods.

Now, when it comes down to

probiotics that you can buy over the counter.

Unfortunately, there's limited evidence on what they can help with.

We do know there's two things that they can really help with.

One is if you're taking an antibiotic and you're getting diarrhea associated due to that antibiotic use, we do know that there is some use to taking a probiotic while on the antibiotic and after the antibiotic, but not forever.

So usually you're only taking it for a time limited space after that antibiotic.

And while you're on that antibiotic, it can help to take probiotics to prevent

infectious diarrhea called Clostridium difficile.

So we want to make sure that we try to prevent that.

Now, as far as trying to help with your gut microbiome, it's only as good as long as you're taking it.

The moment you're not taking that probiotic, then your gut just goes back to what its natural state is.

So we want to make sure, and there's so many probiotics out through there.

And there's, your most common strains are like streptococcus, bifidiobacterium, and lactobacillus.

And they all have specific claims to doing specific things.

I always tell people it's not bad if you want to do a gut reset, but taking it daily every single day, not necessary.

And if you have underlying GI issues and have been diagnosed with a GI disorder, you want to make sure that you're definitely talking to your doctor because actually probiotics may be contraindicated in some of those GI disorders.

So you don't want to take those if you've been diagnosed or you think you have a GI

disorder, go first, see your physician, get diagnosed if you have something underlying so that way you actually don't cause harm because you can get bacterial overgrowth and you want to make sure that you don't cause more harm than not.

00:21:13 Katie Lowe

Yeah, it sounds, what I'm hearing is

You have to put in the work if you really want to improve your gut health, like you were saying, you've got to do research.

There's no really quick fix, easy thing to do.

00:21:27 Dr. Jaynine Vado

And it takes time.

So that's the biggest thing.

When people focus on their gut health, I tell them that this is not something that you're going to see benefit in weeks.

It's going to be several months, years to see those effects.

00:21:38 Marcus Thorpe

I know we've covered a lot of ground and there's still so much ground to cover and we have a limited time on this.

00:21:43 Dr. Jaynine Vado

All of these topics can literally be an entire hour.

That's what we were thinking.

Like we're going to have to do a couple of these, I think.

So do you think people are overdoing supplements?

I guess that's the big question.

Are people taking too many of these because they think they need them?

00:22:01 Marcus Thorpe

What's your big picture view of how people are attacking the supplement issue right now?

00:22:06 Dr. Jaynine Vado

When people turn to supplements,

It's because something's going on with their body that doesn't feel well and right.

And maybe they don't feel comfortable talking to their physician about it, or maybe they feel that they will be judged talking to their physician about it.

And so then they turn to, how can I try to help myself first, right?

Most people want to try to help themselves first.

And we look at these as what I call innocuous, right?

We look at supplements as innocuous, that it's not going to cause me harm if I just try it and see if it helps.

And if it doesn't help, then that's fine.

But you're right, these supplements cost

a lot of money.

And so we have to be mindful of that.

And so, I do think that unfortunately a lot of people are overdoing supplements, but it's coming from a place of wanting to feel well.

And as we age, our bodies just change and we realize that things just don't feel right.

And so, maybe as we're aging, we're feeling our memory is going, or maybe we're having more aches and pains and now our sleep is being disturbed and maybe our energy levels feel low during the day.

Maybe our gut health has changed and we're noticing issues

in that.

And so then we turned and say, hey, what is something that can help me?

And then we start looking to supplement.

00:23:14 Marcus Thorpe

It feels like a dart board, right?

You're just throwing darts and hoping you hit the right one.

And that's almost impossible.

00:23:19 Dr. Jaynine Vado

It is.

And so then what ends up happening is we start compounding them, right?

Because we get, like how I talked about earlier, we start getting one for this and another one for this and another one for this.

And then soon we have a cabinet and a basket full of 10 plus supplements that we're taking.

And then we don't know how, and most people are also taking some sort

of prescribed medication.

And so now we don't know how much are we getting of actually each supplement and mineral that we have in each of those bottles.

And are they potentially interacting with our medication?

Could it be making our medication less effective?

Could it actually be causing our medication to build up to toxic levels?

00:23:56 Katie Lowe

I just want to squeeze in one more quick question, Dr.

Vedo, for someone who's listening here and they go about

having a conversation with their primary care doctor about a supplement that they need.

They go about it the right way.

They get to the store in the aisle and there's like 6 or 7 bottles in different forms.

They don't know which one to choose.

What should they look for in a label?

00:24:20 Dr. Jaynine Vado

Yes.

Okay.

So

All supplements are actually fall under the food under the food administration and industry, so they are not held to the same standards as prescription medications or medications over the counter like acetaminophen or ibuprofen that have been studied.

So a lot of times when people are looking at supplements, you'll see things that say like USP or the National, I believe it was NST through there.

So the National Sanitation Testing and then the USP is United States Pharmacopeia.

So these are non-mandatory labels that

vitamins, minerals, supplements may say, hey, we've done third-party testing to show that our product contains what it says it contains and it doesn't contain any other contaminants or things that can be harmful to you.

Again, it doesn't mean that supplement is going to do the things that it is promising to do.

It just means that they contain what it says it contains and it doesn't contain other things.

Okay.

00:25:23 Marcus Thorpe

So USB verified, you said that's one of them.

USB and then NST.

00:25:27 Marcus Thorpe

NSF.

NSF.

Yes, the National Sanitation Foundation.

So yes, so NSF and USP.

So again, they're using third party testers to say that their supplement or their product contains what it says it contains and it doesn't contain any

chemicals or metals in it that can be harmful to you.

Again, it doesn't mean that it's going to help with what it says it helps with.

It just means that it shouldn't contain anything that could be potentially harmful to you that's not listed on the ingredients.

00:25:58 Marcus Thorpe

Ultimately, don't hide things from your physician as you're starting to consider taking things

don't say, yeah, I'm not taking anything, even a multivitamin.

Like, let's talk about these kind of things.

Let's have these conversations when we're face to face with our docs.

00:26:11 Dr. Jaynine Vado

I've had my patients bring in, I said, bring me in all of your supplements that you're taking.

Let's take a look at them together or send me a picture of them, right?

If you're on MyChart, utilize your MyChart.

Send me a picture of what you're taking.

I will take the time to look through those.

We have, you know, I know that right now AI is a little bit controversial, but you can say,

go onto an AI platform and say, I'm taking this, and this branded supplement.

Am I getting too much of any one vitamin or mineral?

And then you can even put in what medications you're taking to see if it interacts negatively.

And then you can confirm that with your physician because we do have our own software that is

in each health system that we can go ahead and look at drug-to-drug interactions, including those of vitamins and minerals.

00:27:02 Katie Lowe

I love that suggestion because it's so easy.

You can do it at home and in case for whatever reason someone's feeling a little shameful or embarrassed of some of the supplements they're taking, they can first start with ChatGPT.

Something as easy as that.

Dr.

Vedo, thank you so much for being here and helping us make just more sense of this very crowded and oftentimes confusing industry.

00:27:25 Dr. Jaynine Vado

Absolutely.

I'm grateful to help.

And again, I know that it all comes from a place of us wanting to feel as well as we can and to help our well-being.

We just want to make sure that we're doing things safely.

Don't feel embarrassed to ask your physician.

Take pictures of it at the store.

Take pictures of it online.

I would rather you send it to me and me do the research and let you know what to expect from a medication or what to expect from a supplement than to just start it without knowing what it's going to cause.

And certainly catalog.

I do recommend cataloging

when you do start a new supplement, when you started it, and then if you start to have any side effects from it afterwards.

And then remember, supplements aren't mandatory to take.

So if you start feeling a side effect from a supplement, stop it.

Stop it immediately and see if you start to get better within a week or two after stopping it.

and never hesitate to see your physician if you need to.

00:28:16 Marcus Thorpe

Start of next year, we're going to book you for a new episode because there's a lot we didn't get to cover.

And you explained supplements better than anybody I've ever heard.

And so we're going to have you back because I know our listeners are going to have a lot of questions.

Yes, when I was looking through and doing my research, I said easily each of these could be their own topic.

And I think it's really important, especially when you talked about women's health.

There's so many specific supplements to there.

There's so many specific ones to gut health.

There's specific ones to memory health.

Yes.

So I would love to help with that.

00:28:46 Marcus Thorpe

This has been awesome.

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00:29:06 Katie Lowe

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